tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post5289205512495572282..comments2023-05-16T08:21:43.605-06:00Comments on iMinister: Radical Growth Idea for UU'sChristine Robinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02291622244158872449noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post-78431760944711994692011-09-30T10:04:33.363-06:002011-09-30T10:04:33.363-06:00Neighborhood UU Church in Pasadena experienced the...Neighborhood UU Church in Pasadena experienced the same growth your church did when they moved from a lay led summer service to Ministers in the pulpit with the same high quality music as we had the rest of the year. Innovative summer RE also helped bring in new families.Mary Ellen Morgannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post-49372755588781190672011-09-02T09:57:22.279-06:002011-09-02T09:57:22.279-06:00Christine,
We changed up our summer format this ...Christine, <br /><br />We changed up our summer format this year - had ministers preaching regularly and had a consistent summer theme. As a result, our attendance nearly doubled. Tons of newcomers, lots of regulars, and a new tone set: "We don't 'shut down' in the summer." I think it's important to respect the rhythms of your community, and be aware of when attendance might be less, but that doesn't mean we close up shop, or slow it way down for 2 months.<br /> <br />Thanks for the provocative rant. - JustinJustin Schroederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14293450484861865250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post-22512176520298684632011-08-21T13:15:53.602-06:002011-08-21T13:15:53.602-06:00Great post Christine. As the part time minister of...Great post Christine. As the part time minister of a small congregation, I like at the end of your post where you mention alternative ways to provide good quality, real worship services, such as recording a few services. There are many fantastic preachers across the world and watching a sermon or two of theirs would be great!<br /><br />Worship services are important to people and are much needed all year round.Rev. Katie Norrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02287879898436693836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post-6557146960941180082011-08-19T18:49:44.082-06:002011-08-19T18:49:44.082-06:00Yes! Iminister speaks my mind about the minister&...Yes! Iminister speaks my mind about the minister's schedule with time off at shorter intervals, the class bias in favor of those who summer elsewhere, and the need to have a quality service to welcome seekers.UU Clickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02471219340317492071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post-29941481086862236942011-08-18T19:07:39.654-06:002011-08-18T19:07:39.654-06:00Christine, I completely agree with you.
The congr...Christine, I completely agree with you.<br /><br />The congregation I serve has very intentionally been moving to a more full and worshipful summer service. Last year, we moved from an adult forum format to full lay led services. This year we added a one-room RE program, and I've preached on occasion. We have several other activities in the summer -- a Farmers Market, an Arts and Lecture program -- and these are drawing new people into our Sunday worship. It's important to me that they experience quality, consistent worship and programming.Matt Alspaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09714157289810993682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post-77879149077051742882011-08-18T12:41:39.675-06:002011-08-18T12:41:39.675-06:00Both my home congregation and the one where I'...Both my home congregation and the one where I'll be serving as intern minister are open during the summer. One scales down to a single service. Both offer a single all-ages RE group. Neither are air-conditioned, though it's not widely needed for the most part given Pacific NW summers. I can't think of very many churches in my district that do close. Religious and spiritual needs might change for some during the summer, but they don't evaporate. We have a responsibility to those in our congregations, and to our communities.<br /><br />I'm in agreement that a key issue is insuring that clergy and professional religious leaders have adequate time off. Burnout is all too real and harmful.<br />As someone coming to ministry from higher education, who has grown accustomed to "summers off" (though faculty are busy with non-teaching professional duties), I find value in how some of my ministerial colleagues weave in vacation and study leave throughout the year, instead of saving it up. Seems like a better recipe for keeping fresh and vital.<br /><br />There's also a hint of classism in the summers-off, close the doors to church approach. Many jobs don't come with much vacation time, if any -- espcially if you're an hourly worker. What message does our closure send, given these circumstances?Judynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post-92165458246559317642011-08-18T12:02:31.552-06:002011-08-18T12:02:31.552-06:00Amen! to Christine's post and to Sharon's ...Amen! to Christine's post and to Sharon's recognition that it is the scheduling of two months of vacation not that there are two months of vacation time that is the issue.<br /><br />My home congregation is a tiny emerging congregation in the hinterland of southern Illinois. From the time we first committed to weekly services in September 2005, our only exception to that was Christmas Sunday of 2006, when it was clear that almost all of the congregation had family obligations elsewhere on that day. But after that one miss, services have been constant.<br /><br />If a tiny upstart congregation can keep going year-round, so can the bigger, established churches. All that is required is an act of will.<br /><br />It dramatically changes visibility to be up and running year-round.Paul Oakleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17426789386840488470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post-37163937666104379362011-08-17T12:53:29.286-06:002011-08-17T12:53:29.286-06:00As someone just entering the ministry, I don't...As someone just entering the ministry, I don't think that two months of vacation for the minister are a problem (I think all working folks deserve more vacation than we tend to get). And clergy burnout is high.<br /><br />But saving up the two months to take during the summer IS a problem. Most clergy I know who do this are exhausted by April and May. I know it can be incredibly difficult to schedule vacation time, but I also think that doing so is an important thing to model for over-worked congregants, who also have a hard time scheduling and taking vacations.<br /><br />I agree that our churches need to run year-round, and I don't like to see the worship service times change during the summer either. That's just confusing for people. We want church attendance to be a good, strong HABIT (i.e., spiritual practice), and changing the times breaks the habit.Sharonhttp://www.sharonwylie.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post-60720679212238802102011-08-17T11:49:05.913-06:002011-08-17T11:49:05.913-06:00While we contract down to a single service between...While we contract down to a single service between Memorial and Labor Days, our door remain open on Sundays, and the quality of the worship remains. I wish more of our congregations were like this.<br /><br />I was visiting my hometown in MA this summer while the wildfires were burning in New Mexico. I was fretting and feeling powerless. I needed church on a Sunday morning, but both local UU churches were shut down for the summer. What's the message to UUs and seekers in this instance? "The Methodists can take care of you for a couple of months"???? I'm a minister with my own congregation to go back and tend to, but I hate to think what the average lay person's response would be in that moment of need.Obijuanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09473011865098984611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28809213.post-3718303605353809162011-08-17T10:32:25.552-06:002011-08-17T10:32:25.552-06:00Our congregation does not stop having Sunday servi...Our congregation does not stop having Sunday services for the summer, and our building is not air-conditioned. We do change from two services to one, and our minister is out of the pulpit until a couple weeks BEFORE Labor Day, to meet any folks new to the area who might be "church shopping" before school starts. <br /><br />Our summer services are nearly all lay led and include music, and some are as unconventional as last Sunday's African dance (now an annual tradition)! Our religious services committee works very hard to round up members and/or guests to conduct summer services, and sometimes, they're among the best of the year because we get to step out of "the box" of the typical Sunday service format.<br /><br />That said, I will note that summer services usually have much lower attendance rates which I attribute largely to vacations and the lack of RE classes - another thing to consider carrying through the summer?LeenKMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16189262774954734180noreply@blogger.com